The Gong Show
General Chat => Open Chat => Topic started by: Drew on January 19, 2007, 05:16:23 PM
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So I'm involved in a hockey pool here at school on a website called SportingNews. It is a pretty decent salary cap game. Basically you have $30 million and have to pick a roster of 7 players (4 forwards, 2 defence, and one goalie. You get 2 trades a week every Thursday and player values change based on the market so you can actually end up with more than $30 million with smart picks to make better players.
The website has the regular season split into two. Season 2 starts January 26th so if there was interest I could set up a private league for us and we could all join and compete. For fun or cash I don't care. Trouble is unless someone wanted to collect over yonder it would have to be on an IOU basis which likely wouldn't work so I'm leaning towards just for fun and bragging rights.
It is pretty easy and a minimal commitment, you can put as much work or as little as you want into research. Let me know soon in this thread, even if there is just four of us we could do it. I think it would be fun and give us something to trash talk about on the forum.
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Let's do it, and instead of $, as you deem it ineffective, we shall form humiliations, like Kennyvs.Spenny for the loser(s).
I am in!
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I'd play....to win
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count me in as well....but we all know mike will be in last place, and he will probably cry
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You know you can count moi in.
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Wicked, so we have at least five and maybe more. I'm sure my bro and Shad will give it a shot. As well Alston and Jami are obligated because that way they can learn more about the best sport in the world. Plus they are at least guaranteed to beat Mike and Steve.
I'll set up the league tonight if I can and post the details so you can start thinking about your teams.
In response to Steve I'm not sure money is ineffective per se but it would be tough to collect anything from people before it starts. And after it starts and I am leaving you all in my dust no one will want to pay. So instead I figure it could just be for shits and trashing talking. As well as bragging rights and fame.
So stay tuned for the details.
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hey give me some credit. I'll at least beat prego Alston and Jami.
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Okay because there is at least a minimum of interest let's give it a shot. This could be fun or a complete bust. But it is free and I'll keep playing even if you all quit and then I'll pretend that I won.
The website is Sporting News: http://www.sportingnews.com/ (http://www.sportingnews.com/)
Basically go there and you have to create a Member Profile (which is free). Near the top it should be pretty obvious where to click, the link that says Free Membership. Fill out the shit there and I think you then wait for a confirmation email.
Anyway that is all basic stuff. Once you are logged on you are going to have to sign up for the fantasy hockey and get in our league. While logged in go to the NHL tab (correction you need to go to the Fantasy tab) and find somewhere that links you to Fantasy Hockey Challenge Season 2. You may even be able to find it on the main page because they are advertising it at the moment.
When you get to this point it will prompt you to make a Team Name. Now this is a bit different than your login name. Basically on your account you can have multiple teams so you have to create a unique one for each sport/league whatever. However, it can be the same as your login if you wish it. So once again you need to pick a team name in addition to your profile/login name. Though it can be the exact same. I repeat this because a number of people had this issue out here. Now I know for a fact that you people are smarter than law students so I don't expect too many problems.
After you have picked your team name you need to choose a league. You can create a league, join an existing one, or get automatically placed somewhere. You want to join a league. It should then allow you to search the list for our league. Here are the details.
League Name: The Gong Show
Password: gong
So once you do that you should appear on a page where you can see the other people in the pool. I am already on there so the first other person should at least see something. If anyone has any problems joining let me know here and I can see if I can prompt you. I'll make another post in a bit providing details of how the game works if you want. I know you can read the instructions but I may post again just in case.
You have until the 26th I think I said (check my first post in the thread). After that you can still join but you will be behind in points from the get go.
Good luck!
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Okay because I have nothing better to do I'll post the gist of the game here. I know you can all read and figure it out but this is just in case. Plus, who knows it may even encourage someone to join once they see how easy it is.
Basically you make a team of seven players. You have to have one Centre, 2 wingers, 2 defence, one goalie, and one extra attacker. The extra attacker can be a winger or a centre, enabling you to have two centres or three wingers on your team.
You make this team with 30 million dollars. Every player is given a value based on this last season and past performance. Once the season starts on the 26th you start to get points from the players. You can find a list of what points are awarded on the site. Basically it is everything: goals, assits, penalty minutes, shots on net, hits, saves for goalies, etc.
You aren't stuck with those players though. Each week you are given 2 trades for free (Wednesday late at night after the games, so basically Thursday morning). You can use the trades or save them up. They will never expire if you want to save them until you need them. The site gives you the option of purchasing trades, which is stupid. Just to cover that we'll say that we aren't allowed to use that option or you will suffer severe ridicule. Having only 2 a week makes things more interesting anyway.
You also are not restricted to 30 million. Players values go up and down depending on how many people are picking them up or dumping them. So as the year goes on your franchise value goes up, allowing you to pick up better players.
Also, no one will be able to see your team until after the first night. After that when you make a trade no one can see it until the next day. So that allows you to get the jump on people if your guy has a big night. That is about all there is to it. More indepth stuff is on the site.
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I will play!
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Ok Mike, you probably will beat prego Alston, but I'm still betting that you finish second to last! haha
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I see your Team names and you people need help. Oh I'm sure you realized this but you can make unlimited trades until the season starts. So you can shuffle guys around for the next week until you like what you see.
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I'm registered....
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With the most offensive name you can think of I see.
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Come on buddy, you know you love it. haha
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Okay I may have giggled.
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I don't know how to make a team! Oh no, my team is named the gong show! What happened!
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So you are all signed on and everything I will assume. Go to Front Office then My Team then you can see your empty roster. You can click on the Buy C or whatever to buy guys. Alternatively when you are looking through players you can just click on their price. That works as the selling and buying.
Oh I see now...you had the option to make a team name before you joined the league. You just put that as the team name. I think you can change your team name or in the alternative make a new one and move that team to some other public league.
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But I don't want my team to be named the gong show. I didn't pick that.
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Firstly...you obviously did pick that, but we don't need to go into that. You can create a new team by going to the Help/Game Info. And then Change Team Name.
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Too late... now I have 2 teams. hah.
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But you moved it so that is fine. Or you figured out how to delete it, there may be a way for all I know.
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Jami, you newb
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I moved it to a league called crap.
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Still time to join here people. I know that Ryan, Steve, and Shad all want in. Or if not I'm telling them that they want in. Jami you should really create your team and no help from Bob!
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I will try to look into this shortly and join. I assume the deadline is the end of the Allstar break? Is Allstar two words? Allstar All Star hmm...
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Uh, I'd stick with All Star. Yeah you would want a team by Friday evening or you'd be missing some points and eating our dust very early on. Not that you hypothetically couldn't come back, but it would be difficult. It doesn't take too long to sign up and getting a team can take 5 minutes or 5 days depending on how much thought you want to put into it.
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I should have my life straightened out by Friday. I'll be game, as long as you goons get shit-faced with me at the Necks game on Saturday!
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Deal.*
*This is not really a deal, all liability is hereby disclaimed.
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I'm in... The Angry Dragons will rule you all.
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The MaessCity Madmen are in. We should think of the wagers, I'm excited about the pool.
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I don't mind wagers but you boys would have to collect it with someone and take me at my word (good luck). If that is what everyone wants to do I don't care. I just see too many problems after the fact if no one has pooled the money together.
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And say we should wager our pride. But some of us have none to lose - Jaron, Steve.
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Awesome, only 1 day and 3 hours until Season 2. By the way I hope Ryan and Jami decide to make a team before then or they will be in trouble. If they don't at least none of us can do any worse than sixth.
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You can't lose what you don't have!
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I picked my team! I don't know most of the players, so 4 of them are Flames, or former Flames. My team rocks!
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Jami I can honestly say that I like your strategy.
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It's a good strategy. You will all be sad when my super team kicks all your asses!
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Well that is no lie. I will be very sad if/when you kick my ass.
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Just over six hours remain until it is go time. Everyone seems to have a team so far so that is the good news.
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I'm still voting badwin for last place!!!!
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Nah, i'm at least going to beat Jami
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Mike's team has 7 Flames so he figures he has a better shot than Jami.
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Ok mike, second to last. Sorry Jami...
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I will beat Mike! I have supportive hockey back-up nerds like my brothers and dad. Suckers!
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Ya well, Mike's dad is bigger than your dad!
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Oh man I am getting smoked tonight already, haha.
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I was rather upset when my goalie didnt start tonight.
Mike picked pronger.. hahahhhahahaha what a tool.
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I had the same goalie disappointment...but PRONGER! hahaha
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Omg Bob hax!!11! My goalie didn't start either!
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Maybe you shouldn't pick such crappy goalies.
I picked Kipper! So did Shad, I think. Just because of that, Shad and I will be winning this thing!
And I don't get it. How do we know what we are ranked and so on?
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Bob, didn't you pick Roloson.........? 4-1 loss tonight.......
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Uh, looks like they are having some technical difficulties at the moment getting things back on track. This happened a bit the last season. We should be ranked and have our points from last night listed etc. I'm sure sometime today that will be fixed. Then you can all see how badly I did.
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Bah, thank God it is a long season.
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*ahem* I am currently in 3rd place. Just thought you would all like to know.
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Refer to my previous post. Long season.
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No I bailed on rolly when i realized how much he sucks.
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Sweet... My Angry Dragons are in 2nd.
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The MaessCity Madmen
Team Summary Manager Info
Total TSNP: -21 World Rank: 80999 out of 81,113
114 people are doing worse. he he he.
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Gah that jerk Hasek blew his shutout with 4 minutes left. I hope we can hang on for the win.
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Dude I know!! Hasek only had to make 10 saves up to that point and he still blew the shutout. DAMN
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That was the problem I realized when I picked him up. Detroit plays such a good trap defence that the games are super low scoring. That means fewer saves and fewer saves means fewer points. So one goal against really screws with your point total.
I've had goalies that get 3 goals scored on them but come out ahead because they also made 35 saves. -15 per goal but +2 per save. So you could be down 45 but back up 70 and still be positive.
Friggin Hasek made 12 saves which is 24 points minus 15 for one goal against. Destroys your points. But a win is just as important so I'm not really bitching.
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I be climbing bitches!!
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Come on Pronger!
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I hope Pronger gets his other ankle broken!!
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And away we go! I'm gunning for you Bob.
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going to be pretty tough when 3 of my players get hat tricks tonight
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It will be even tougher when my team keeps playing like shit.
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Yeah my guys choked tonight too.
Bastards.
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I totally have a conflict of interest now!
I mean, I was glad to see Kipper not get a shutout, and was glad to see Langkow leave the game, what the hell is up with that?
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Man I am can't stop getting spanked. This is hilarious.
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I made 2 trades today. I now only have 1 non Flame or non former Flame. Wee.
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I sure hope that works out for you. It has to be better than my strategy at the moment.
Oh and just so everyone knows. Hockey pools are like golf. Lower score wins. I knew I would smoke you all.
Hmmm, I swore we got 2 more trades today (it being Thursday). Maybe mine has yet to update...but if not man that is going to suck huge.
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I am not going to lie that I laughed this morning when I saw you in last.
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I think there is just a system error. I mean they fixed the trade problem but they haven't bumped me up to my proper place in first yet. I'm sure it is just server errors that will be fixed anytime now.
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Ya man what is going on? Mike is supposed to be in last place!
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I have actually had a lot of shitty nights since the first one. Thank god you all suck more.
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Don't worry everyone. I'm just keeping Mike's spot warm for him.
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Word of the night - SMOOOKED! I'm really going to clean up with the games tonight.
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I had the best plan ever to get rid of that deadweight Vanek. It has been thwarted. Jami hold my spot until tomorrow please, I'll be reclaiming it.
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No problem. After my 2 Flames game this weekend I should be moving up a bit... well as long as they don't completely choke.
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I'll cross my fingers for you in that case. I'm waiting until the right night to do a dramatic jump to first from eighth.
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The guy in first place right now OzRox has got all Calgary Flames. The funny part is, his favorite team is Vancouver. Another one has finally seen the light.
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I have come up with a plan to benefit everyone this coming Thursday. By Wednesday evening or early Thursday morning I will have decided what trades that I will need to make.
At that point I will tell everyone before I make the trades. That way you know who to avoid. So long as you don't pick up the guys that I do, they are guaranteed to have a good week. However, if you do not heed my warnings and make the same move as me, that player is sure to get negative points.
Just a little public service. I'll be back soon with my terrible picks of the week.
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Thanks Andrew. It's getting a little crowded up here in 4th spot.... I'd love to move up a little further.
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Fuckin Sedin Twins! 7 points between them tonight!!!
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Booya! D.Sedin 2 goals and an assist.
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I'm not sure I should help you out now Mike after learning you have one of the Sedins. I hate those homos.
But a promise is a promise so later today I will post my uber move.
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ah, 3rd place sure is nice.......
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Not as nice as 2nd....
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Personally, I like 6th.
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Woo, bumped up two places. But I still promised to submit my terrible pick before I made it. So without further ado...
Okay there is some further ado. My calculator sucks and I thought I could afford someone that I could not. So this may take a few minutes longer. Eagerly await.
Time for an edit, I finally made my sketchy pick up of the week. So Shea Weber is out (though I Yes don't know how he is falling $160k a day, not sure how that many people could have had him in the first place, it isn't like he is doing any worse than he should be, I hate Americans). In his place I have taken Dan Boyle.
Yes I am aware that this is a terrible choice but I see myself as a victim of circumstances. Wish me luck, or don't, whatever.
Further update. Weber is injured it seems. Hurt his jaw...what a pussy. Does he shoot the puck with his face? Get on the ice and deal with your sore jaw.
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Muwhahahahaha
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I'm hangin on to third! I think I could pass Jaron tonight...
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Ain't gonna happen Badwin!
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Watch for me to make my move in the coming days. Your time is up Jaron!
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Don't you worry, I have some moves to make of my own! I still predict a last place finish from you!
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Last place, that's a place for losers, i'm a winner. Your seat shall be overthrown and I shall sit triumphantly in 2nd place. Till I make my final and most decisive move. MUHAHAHA
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I will admit, if it happens (although it won't), your stint in 2nd place will be short lived!!!
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Have you all already given up on the battle for first?
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He has begun to crumble under the weight of my textual onslaught! 2nd Place is mine, next first place, and then the WORLD!
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Oh don't you worry...I already know I'll finish in first
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Way to move into 2nd mike....
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patience
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After tonights lovely performance I am sure he will get there!
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Fuck Detroit, both my guys -3 tonight, so much for the gain. How can they embarass Calgary and get rusty-tromboned by Philly?
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ya they tanked for sure....but that's ok with me! haha
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Steve used "rusty trombone" like it was a bad thing.
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he did indeed, a bloody-trombone....now that's a bad thing.
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Bastardos! As I was making ground, Crosby had to go and get 4 assists toinght!!!
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haha, ya I'm not complaining you were gaining ground like crazy!
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Mark Recchi is the greatest player that ever lived.
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yes, he's almost making you a contender, almost.
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Hey Steve, you'd better watch your asshole. Because I'm coming in for a landing. A very dry and violent landing.
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Damn all my fucking players. Damn them all.
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I told you mike...LAST PLACE!
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No way. I don't think Ryan is playing anymore.. he's perma-last.
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Haha, fair enough...I'm surprised you dumped Fleury
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har har.. Ass
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sweet...I think I lost points tonight.
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Er, ya I haven't looked at that site in about 2 weeks I think. Just as I suspected, I didn't care enough to take the time and effort to follow it. Alas, I tried... I think there needed to be money on the line in order for me to pay close attention.
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yes, he's almost making you a contender, almost.
Hey Steve, how does my dust taste?
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I am once again wallowing at the bottom of the pack... good thing I don't suck at picking stocks as much as I suck at picking hockey players! Maybe it would help if I actually watched a hockey game every once an a while.
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Bitter Andrew, it tastes bitter, and I have learned my lesson....
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holey shit the pool would be a good one to be in I wish I got in on time all these five plus goals in the last couple nights like 5-7 5-2 and ottawa's 6-5
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That was the worst night in hockey pool history.
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Yay! Kipper finally made some saves in a shoot out. Maybe I will get some good points tonight.
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Well i should be rockin some huge points tonight!!!
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Nah, I got you covered. Huge.
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You call that covered?? YAY FIRST PLACE!!
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King Bobby is dead!
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It's been a rough week for that poor man.
And I actually did not mean to toss that pun in there, my apologies.
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It's time for me to find a wrist slitting emoticon.
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FUCK! So, I'm the guy with the only players playing tonight in the entire contest, and it was a fuckin 1-0 game. Come on up to third Drew and Mike, the water's warm, I've been wading in this pool for far too long.
I peed in it.
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Yeah, Mike and I agreed not to compete with each other. A gentlemen's agreement of sorts. So if we continue to "suck" it is only an appearance. We are really just maintaining the status quo so as not to break our bargain with each other.
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Yup, I think by the end will both end up with exactly the same number of points. Don't ask how, it's very complicated mathmatical calculations and algorythms.
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Who's glad they traded Iginla, Andrew, you?
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No Steve, I absolutely regret trading him away one month ago. I have lost sleep for the last month worrying that he would get a hat trick one month after I traded him. But the hockey gods have shown me for lacking one month's worth of foresight. Now the last thirty days have been a complete waste, and in the future I will no longer make hockey trades on the off chance that one month later they will score a hat trick. The regret will consume me.
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hmm, I'm sensing some sarcasm...
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You might be right Badwin....although I'm not 100% sure haha
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I looked at the schedule of games that are being played today, and man there are some good games. I was going to make some 'easy' trades to see if I could get some extra points.. But I really don't know who to trade.
Also, what happens in the playoffs? Is it a new round?
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Nope it is over. So we are pretty much winding down.
If you want more fantasy fun, I suggest the baseball thread. Get your team in today!
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again, baseball sucks
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TODAY'S THE LAST DAY TO ENTER!! YOU CHUMPS BETTER F*$&ING DO IT!!!!! Else you will all be very sad when you have nothing to talk about ALLLLLLLLLLLL summer long!
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again, baseball sucks
Don't steal my team name!
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I accidently watched some pre-baseball news tonight. I'm happy to report baseball is still really fucking gay.
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Andrew you worked me in the pool last night. Bastard.
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Haha, I haven't made a trade since March 1st. I haven't even been checking the pool so I do apologize. I guess Vinnie Lecalvalier is better than Iginla. But remember, that was a bad trade on my part.
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That sucks there is no play off round. Maybe we should all just pick players and see who wins.... although that would be complicated.. nevermind
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It wouldn't be that bad...I mean here we do a ten player roster and see who gets the most points. I forget how the goalie works. It is a possibility, I don't mind having a spreadsheet and recording each day.
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I'm in for that, I'll do a playoff pool, but i think we shouldn't have trades, that all comes into play with how far the team makes it.
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Or you guys could just join my playoff league i started
Name: GongShow
pass: gong
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Sweet.....
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Woohoo. Oh, so much better than baseball.
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I'm in!
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Damn Andrew, only 21 points of a tie.
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Haha, no luck at all. That would have been awesome.
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i'm surprised we were that close. I was sure I was going to clean up. I can't believe that both Vancouver and Buffalo lost. Bastards.
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That was alot of fun! Let's get more to play for the playoff round!
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Gah, I'm joining. But under duress.
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So the price for losing in this playoff pool is that you have to buy the winner a 6 pack... agreed?
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Sure, when financially available to.
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Aw crap. I'll be home when my terrible team loses.
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I'm going to win! I'm pretty sure either Atlanta or New York is going to win it for sure. So I just split my roster between the two of them. Eat your hearts out losers! GO SMYTH!
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Damn, I can't compete with those mad skillz!
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Hey Shad, does it feel good to move up four spots by being a traitor? Guess all that time in Edmonton really got into your head. I bet you were even disappointed when Hasek lost his shut out. How can you even sleep at night?
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Winning Beer > My Flames Loyalty
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Shad you make me sick you traitor. How come nobody is buying me beer for winning!
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Because you didn't make the agreement before the pool started. I can't wait for my six pack!
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Today is the day that I am on top of the Playoff Hockey and Baseball pool world. I am going to burn this motha fucka down!
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Your baseball pool reign won't last long!
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Sucks to have no trade left with tons of guys on your team that aren't playing. Not to single out anyone in particular *cough*Jaron*cough*.
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Haha I deserve it...didn't really consider the whole "elimination" thing. Looks like I'll have some catching up to do!
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My excitement is short lived because the leader has his whole team still fine.
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Not after I hack him.
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Sweet, kill them all. I'm taking first after tonight by the way.
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Okay yesterday I wanted to post something about how crazy it was that Steve and I were tied for first and the chances of that being so slim. But the website was hating me. So now I'm posting to say that I am back in second by a mere 60 points and I will be in first tomorrow. Guaranteed.
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Bah, stupid internet made my post twice. I have decided to make a bet with anyone who thinks that I won't take first this evening. First person to post can bet me a beer that I won't take first. (ie: if I do you buy me one and if I don't then I buy you one when I get back). If no one takes the bet that is also fine. I would understand, my team is clearly way awesomer than Steve's.
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I will take that bet! You are on!!! We will see who is Awesomer, Gnarlier, and generally more Tubular-er.
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I suppose that you would be the best person to take the bet. I noticed that you had 0 trades, if you made trades today that I don't know about this will be a sketchy bet. Hah.
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Even with 2 guys playing tonight, and half his roster not even in the playoffs anymore - Jaron's making a killing!!!
Umm, this is Steve, I guess I'm logged in as Jay...
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I have a bad feeling about today.
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Stupid New Jersey Devils.
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Muhahahaha, looks like Andrew's buying me 2 cases <-- forecasting Andrew's finish in last.
Btw, did anyone else find it convenient that Buffalo didn't tie that game, Commissioner Bettman was there, it was an obvious goal, it was in New York, it wouldn't have tied the series, lost revenue of one less game, and the "non-goal"prevented chaos in New York?
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Uh let me just correct a slight misunderstanding. I said "a beer". As in one, not a case but nice try cheater pants.
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Well boys and girls. We are halfway through the playoffs but arguably the most important round is upon us. Don't take it too personally when I beat you all into oblivion.
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You people are all slackers. I swear if any picks are submitted once the game starts and you pick the team that is winning tonight I will be very skeptical.
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Skeptical of what??? Our superiority?
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Ah shit, wrong friggin thread. It was supposed to be in the Monkey thread.
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Wow, this is reall tightened up, this will get extremely tight after the OT win we have here.
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Yes sir, Thank you scott.
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I couldn't believe yesterday how tight it was. And it is not any better today except Jaron fell away from the pack a very little bit. I hope you are all making fun of Mike when you see him for being the only non-contender.
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We have added it to the list of thing to make fun of Mike for. Yes.
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P.s. Mike you don't have a second defensemen so even if you do get points with your players your team gets none because you don't have a full roster.
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Oh wow, I never actually looked at his team. Invalid roster. Hah.
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Ha ha! I noticed that too... he ran out of trades. I don't like this whole you guys catching up to me thing... I really wanna win that 6 pack.
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I'd hate to point this out but having no trades isn't his problem. It is when you sell a player that you use the trade. The act of picking one up is for free. So in fact he could pick up a player at anytime. Actually, that makes it even funnier for me.
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When I logged out the other day I had all my players added. I don't know what is wrong with this fantasy league. I want a full inquiry. Justice must be served.
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Mike's objection is noted.
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2nd loser will split the payment with Mikal, and that's looking like me with Giguere. godammit, Emery couldn't stop a beachball before this year, and Hasek is a circus show, I'm wondering what he'll do next.
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I call BS...let's make Mike pay for the full six pack!!! You should be monitoring your team daily Badwin!
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I'm with Jaron. This is crap.
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Fine, I just hope you are the winner Andrew. I'd sure like to buy you a six pack..... and then promptly shove it up your ass.
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I think we should call an early end to the pool, lets say tomorrow morning about 11am? That works for you guys? Good.
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Deal. I have a good feeling about the games tonight. I feel a 400 point night coming on. Let's do whatever Bob says. Without question.
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Well I'm out of the running altogether. I just hope I have to buy a 6 pack for someone I like. As long as it's not Andrew i'll be happy. Ya, I said it.
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Mike I can guarantee that it will be me.*
*This is not a guarantee.
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Jesus, good thing this isn't a close race or anything.
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Gay'd
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Well folks that was a lot of fun, and I'm not just saying that because I won. Nothing like a little drama right until the end. I think some Corona's would be pretty tasty Mike, keep that in mind.
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Oh and sorry for the double post but here are the final standings. What really upsets me is that Bob or I didn't double Mike.
1 Keirstead 168 4422 --
2 TheRapists 92 4372 -50
3 The Angry Dragons 84 4008 -414
4 MaessCityMadmen 171 3951 -471
5 The Pink Socks 171 3947 -475
6 The_Badwins 12 2656 -1766
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I was toast right after the first round...it took me 2 weeks before I had a full roster again! Congrats Andrew!
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Well played, Well played, down to the freakin' wire, and Andrew comes from behind, as he prefers.
Mike, I say you buy him Big Bears, and directly shove it up his ass as mentioned.
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So long as it is a six-pack of Big Bears I don't think I'll complain over much.
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*Cough*
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C'mon Mike - Andrew wants his butt beers, his ass ales, his meat mead.
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Any or all of the above will suffice. That or real beers.
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Ah yes, the beer. Well next time we are at the liquor store i'll get you something special. From me to you.
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Yippee. I would also like to take this moment to let everyone know that I plan to do another hockey pool again this year. This is the two month warning. Likely a new topic will be started eventually for banter and trash talk. I'm thinking this time we all pitch in some cash ($10?) to make it more entertaining and to hold everyone's attention. Let me know about interest etc.
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I'm interested. This time I will watch the injury list, and make sure I always have a full team. Arg.
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Tis a full time job. But the hours of effort are worth the measly sum of money you could win.
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I'm in!!! We do need a more tardy payment method, has Mike forfeited the beers to you yet?
I'm excited for this!